Zion and the Art of Armageddon

[fillyboy]

Israel has killed more than 13,000 children in Gaza since October 7 while others are suffering from severe malnutrition and do not “even have the energy to cry”, says the United Nations Children’s Fund (UNICEF).

Alexandra Saieh, head of humanitarian policy and advocacy at Save the Children International, said the official number of children who have died of malnutrition amid a growing famine in Gaza likely under-represents the true scale of the tragedy.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/un-drastically-revises-downward-number-of-identified-women-children-killed-in-gaza/

Having previously reported that 9,500 women and 14,500 children had died during the war (some 69% of all fatalities), OCHA is now reporting far lower numbers, stating that among “identified” deaths, 4,959 women have died, along with 7,797 children (or 52% of the total number of identified deaths in the war).

Of note, the Hamas ministry counts all those under the age of 18 as children, while commentators note that a not-insignificant number of combatants are in their teens.

 

[Odds]

The new figures were 7,797 children and 4,959 women killed and subsequently identified. OCHA did not change its overall estimate that more than 34,900 Palestinians have died.

pick the bones out of the rubble. Then y'all can play the numbers game.

 

[ellal]

pick the bones out of the rubble. Then y'all can play the numbers game.

Israel's apologists only care about playing a numbers game when it suits their support of the undoubted indiscriminate mass slaughter and almost medieval siege tactics that is taking place!

 

[ajohn]

Of note, the Hamas ministry counts all those under the age of 18 as children

They are. An extract
The data now differentiates between the total number of deaths reported by Hamas (over 34,000) and the number of “identified” fatalities (over 24,000).
I love the over 24,000 because this area has been mentioned before. OCHA take figures directly from the Gaza hospitals. They identify the body when it arrives. That is one of the figures. The other is an estimate based on number of people in a building when it's hit less survivors. As bodies are under the rubble they can not be identified individually. Much like the world over a body is needed to be able to legally state they are dead. The others could just be regarded as missing.

Fact is no UN agency has downgraded the figures. Israel has just tried to via the article. Lied in terms of they have downgraded the numbers. They haven't.

The highest number I have heard is 7,000 that fit in with the missing numbers. That is the max error if none died this way. None - are you kidding when houses and flat blocks are bombed when there are likely to be max number of people in them.

The other aspect is the current hospital situation in the strip. The Israeli ICJ lady says fine which does not tie in with reports from visiting docs from a whole variety of countries. She also suggested a field hospital is as capable as a proper one. Reports on those suggest NGO run with limited facilities. These always have a need to be able to transfer people to real ones.

 

[Odds]

Israel's apologists only care about playing a numbers game when it suits their support of the undoubted indiscriminate mass slaughter and almost medieval siege tactics that is taking place!

It's a zero sum game. Who is winning?

 

[ajohn]

Daily death counts of late are lower than they have been in the past. A number of attacks are repeats so some changes in this area can be expected.

Aid. The floating pier is operational. They think it can be stepped up to 90 trucks a day which is way short so land corridors are still needed. Cheaper and more convenient. The US still says these corridors need to be opened. It's not clear which ones are. The S ones aren't. The Kuwait hospital still seems to be operational despite Israel saying evacuate it.